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Neat. First time my photos were in a news story (that I can recall) and a soundbite: News.com: Lessig visits Second Life

I never get tired of looking at screenshots of Audioblog's Japanese product Castella. Here's a review of Castella.jp.

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I've made a short little thing... no audio.. it's late. So, download and watch the second video from Lessig's virtual appearance in Second Life. Check the last two posts for video #1 and the transcript (and also links to the flickr photos).

Now go remix the video.

An amusing observation from Lessig's talk in Secondlife... Visit EricRice.com for the transcript and links to screenshots.

"While Prof Lessig is talking to the virtual world, images of him looking at the virtual world...are displayed on the screen behind him, *looking* into the virtual world."

How meta is that?


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This is a transcript of Lawrence Lessig's talk inside the virtual world Second Life... updates coming. Lessig Photos here.

Hamlet Linden shouts: Before I turn you over to Philip Linden, I wanted to start off with a few questions on *Free Culture* to set the context.
Julia Hartunian applauds enthusiastically.
Zuru Cult claps
harold Rawley: /clap
Hamlet Linden: Let's say you get in the elevator with Senator Orrin Hatch and Daniel Robert Glickman, the new head of the MPAA-- what point from *Free Culture* would you convey to them, in the short time you have?
Gonta Maltz: woo hoo!
Lawrence Lessig: So the thing Orrin should be asked is this: how come the gov't is spending so much energy regulating creativity? Where's the republican in that?
Lawrence Lessig: And second, how come spending so much time protecting this powerful industry against competition, rather than embracing competition as the way we find a new world. two quick questions before floor 3
Hamlet Linden: Great.
Hamlet Linden: Now let's say Senator Hatch and Glickman get out, and in comes a kid who likes to download lots of music and movies via p2p-- what point from *Free Culture* would you convey to *him*?

Lawrence Lessig: i don't have anything to tell the kid.
Lawrence Lessig: the kid is teaching us something.
Lawrence Lessig: if you look at the creativity kids have demonstrated using digital technology, that's enough to say that we,
Lawrence Lessig: professors
Lawrence Lessig: lawyers
Lawrence Lessig: congressmen
Lawrence Lessig: should listen, not lecture.
Hamlet Linden: But what do you tell him he wants to get involved with teaching us more?
Lawrence Lessig: well, he should want to teach us more
Lawrence Lessig: because we
Lawrence Lessig: or they
Lawrence Lessig: government
Lawrence Lessig: is quite good a destroying.
Lawrence Lessig: and the one thing they seem most keen to do is to use the law
Lawrence Lessig: to protect dying industries
Lawrence Lessig: and in that way
Lawrence Lessig: destroy new worlds.
Lawrence Lessig: so to speak
Hamlet Linden: It's been nearly two years since *Free Culture* was published.
Philip Linden: Potentially literally!
Hamlet Linden: What significant changes in the world of media and the entertainment industry have you seen since then, and how have they enhanced or modified the arguments you were making in the book?
Lawrence Lessig: the explosion of what I call
Lawrence Lessig: but would love a better word for
Lawrence Lessig: the "read write internet"
Lawrence Lessig: the key thing we're seeing now

Lawrence Lessig: is the internet used to create and remix culture.
Lawrence Lessig: the focus 2 years ago was p2p filesharing

Lawrence Lessig: but the focus today is the stuff that happens here
Lawrence Lessig: or in mashups
Lawrence Lessig: or with remixed music
Lawrence Lessig: or anime music videos.
Lawrence Lessig: this capacity and this creativity is extraordinary
Lawrence Lessig: and yet the "war" that that copyright industry is waging to against "piracy"
Lawrence Lessig: will kill it. at least as a legitimate part of culture
Hamlet Linden: Tell me a little bit about pleading the Eldred case before the Supreme Court in 2002, and how difficult to was to write about the experience so self-critically.

Lawrence Lessig: so eldred began in 1998.
Lawrence Lessig: i was a new professor at harvard.
Lawrence Lessig: i was a believer in what the law could do.
Lawrence Lessig: i saw this law -- the sonny bono copyright term extension act
Lawrence Lessig: an act that extended the term of copyright for EXISTING works by 20 years
Lawrence Lessig: the 11th extension of existing copyright terms in 40 years
Lawrence Lessig: and I compared it to the constitution, which says that
Lawrence Lessig: congress has the power to PROMOTE THE PROGRESS OF SCIENCE by securing FOR LIMITED TIMES
Lawrence Lessig: exclusive rights to authors for their writings
Lawrence Lessig: and it was clear to me that current practice was inconsistent with the framers intent.
Lawrence Lessig: now I had clerked for justice scalia
Lawrence Lessig: an originalist
Lawrence Lessig: a conservative.
Lawrence Lessig: and so I knew quite well the philosophy of the conservatives

Lawrence Lessig: and they believe that you interpret and apply the constitution as it was originally inteded
Lawrence Lessig: intended
Lawrence Lessig: so I thought: great, we go to the supreme court, we show them this law and the original constitution,
Lawrence Lessig: and the conservatives will agree with us because of originalism
Lawrence Lessig: and the liberals will agree with us because of the burden on free speech
Lawrence Lessig: and we'll get 9 (actually 8 -- there's one really pro copyright person on the court) on our side.
Lawrence Lessig: it was insanely naive.
Lawrence Lessig: when we got close to the argument at the supreme court
Lawrence Lessig: a friend
Lawrence Lessig: a law professor
Lawrence Lessig: said to me:
Lawrence Lessig: so I'm convinced you're right on the law.
Lawrence Lessig: but tell me the last time the supreme court voted against all the money in the world.
Lawrence Lessig: i told him he was being really boring. that's not how the court thinks.
Lawrence Lessig: he understood something more than I.
Hamlet Linden: In your argument before the Supreme Court, Justice Kennedy asks you for empirical evidence that extending copyright has impeded cultural progress.
Hamlet Linden: You keep the focus on a point of Constitutional law, though you now regret not citing such evidence. If you could do it over again, what empirical evidence would you give Justice Kennedy and the Court?
Lawrence Lessig: yea.
Lawrence Lessig: it was a good question.
Lawrence Lessig: the problem is it's hard to point to evidence as in stuff people have counted.

Lawrence Lessig: but things since then have made the issue clearer.
Lawrence Lessig: think for example about the google book search project.
Lawrence Lessig: google wants to index 18,000,000 books
Lawrence Lessig: and make them searchable.
Lawrence Lessig: if the book is in copyright, you'll get a "snippet" around the search

Lawrence Lessig: if it is not incopyright, then you casn see the full book.

Lawrence Lessig: of the 18m books, 16% are out of copyright.
Lawrence Lessig: 9% are in copyright andin print.
Lawrence Lessig: that means 75% are in copyright, but out of print.
Lawrence Lessig: now the publishers say you need to ask permission before you index these books.
Lawrence Lessig: but how do you ask the 75% of 18m authors when we have no list of copyright owners, no record of who owns the rights, no way to track down current claimants at all
Lawrence Lessig: the copyright system is the most inefficient property system known to man

Lawrence Lessig: yet it stands in the way -- and now threatens Google with a huge law suit -- because the term gets extended and extended.
Lawrence Lessig: the term for the framers was 14 years, renewable once.
Lawrence Lessig: it isnow life of the author plus 70 years -- which for someone creating in the way irving berlin did, would be 140 years.
Lawrence Lessig: so, justice kennedy , does blocking access to 50-75% of the books in our tradition constitute a burden on our culture?
Hamlet Linden: If you said all that, do you think the case could have turned your way?
Lawrence Lessig: people who know stuff say there was no way to win.
Lawrence Lessig: i still think that two things could have changed their view
Lawrence Lessig: first., I should have been meaner to the conservatives
Lawrence Lessig: I should have held their feet to the fire of their own principles -- directly telling them that they couldn't consistently decide
Lawrence Lessig: that congress was free to make up whatever term they wanted
Lawrence Lessig: and that it was limited in all the ways the conservatives have limited congress.
Lawrence Lessig: it should have been framed as a -- you choose, principled or political, question.
Lawrence Lessig: the second thing would have been to make the case less about mickey mouse, and more about the rest of culture that gets locked up just so we can protect mickey.
Lawrence Lessig: probably 90% of the creativity that had its copyright extended is not commercially available at all.
Lawrence Lessig: for creativity like films, that means that that works is totally inaccessible

Lawrence Lessig: and when the copyrighhts for those films expire, the works themselves will literally have expired -- film decays; it will be dust before the copyrighr endxs.


Lawrence Lessig: the point is they should recognize that they're choosing -- either help mickey, or help preserve and make accessible our culture - at least on terms different from the terms that hollywood offers
Hamlet Linden: OK, I think that sets the framework for the book-- I want to turn over the floor to Philip to let him discuss your relation to SL and other themes of these ideas impacting with virtual worlds. Philip?
Philip Linden shouts: Thanks Hamlet!
Philip Linden shouts: Lawrence, it is such an honor to have you here!
Lawrence Lessig: it is great fun
Philip Linden: Our world, SL,
Philip Linden: is an opportunity to take a look at the rules that govern society
Philip Linden: and to the extent that we are able,
Philip Linden: re-write them as best seems to fit us.


Philip Linden: And Free Culture is such an incredible explanation
Philip Linden: of some of the things we need to hold dear in this consideration.
Philip Linden: For those here who don't know.
Philip Linden: Lawrence has affected the history of SL already...
Philip Linden: We had a meeting in 2003 to think about the future of SL
Philip Linden: and Lawrence was kind enough to attend,
Philip Linden: and to give us his thoughts on IP, land, and how things should be in SL


Philip Linden: Shortly thereafter we gave IP rights to creators,
Lawrence Lessig: bravo
Philip Linden: and switched to our system of land ownership
Philip Linden: clearly, looking at the last 2 years,
Zuru Cult: cool
Philip Linden: this was the right call.
Lawrence Lessig: as every free society has discvered
Philip Linden: Yes!
Philip Linden: We have realized, more and more over time,
Philip Linden: how much SL is a developing nation,
Philip Linden: and how, it we want to succeed,

Philip Linden: we must make the choices which fastest and best advance us all
Philip Linden: we must make the choices which fastest and best advance us all
Philip Linden: these sorts of choices are at the heart of Lawrence's work.
Philip Linden: One thing that I have often said about SL,
Philip Linden: is that it is a kind of time machine
Philip Linden: a place where innovation is rewarded,
Philip Linden: or perhaps ideas fail,
Philip Linden: or businesses rise and then decline
Philip Linden: in a fraction of 'real world' time
Philip Linden: What I was struck by in reading Free Culture

Philip Linden: is how important this idea on time becomes!
Philip Linden: By extending copyrights,
Philip Linden: we are going in exactly the opposite direction.
Philip Linden: Slowing progress in the real world.
Philip Linden: In the same way we can hopefully speed it here.
Philip Linden: In the beginning of Free Culture,
Philip Linden: you tell the story of air rights...
Philip Linden: of how overflying property is a public good.
Lawrence Lessig: yes a problem you've dealt with
Philip Linden: This is SO relevant and topical in SL.
Philip Linden: Something we've all struggled with...
Philip Linden: how to balance freedom and ownership with progress and benefit for all.
Philip Linden: I wanted to ask you a question,
Philip Linden: that I think folks in SL will really relate to,

Philip Linden: and is an example of where we are at the edge of the envelope
Philip Linden: I interviewed a person for a job at LL the other day
Philip Linden: and she was telling me how one of her dreams for using SL
Philip Linden: was to build the sets of movies...
Philip Linden: was to build the sets of movies...

Philip Linden: and allow people to act out the endings in a different way...
Philip Linden: to be a part of the movie.

Philip Linden: But then, of course,
Philip Linden: she paused...
Philip Linden: and said.. "oh., but wouldn't that be illegal"
Philip Linden: I think she really didn't know.
Philip Linden: I think I don't really know.
Philip Linden: And that is what your book is all about.
Philip Linden: I don't think that exactly motivated her to go in there and start working on 'finding Nemo'
Philip Linden: What do you think would happen to her if she did?
Lawrence Lessig: So 2nd life is prominent
Lawrence Lessig: it would get shut down
Lawrence Lessig: it is a totally simple applicaiton of existing law
Lawrence Lessig: you're publishing a derivative of the movie
Lawrence Lessig: you need permission from the movie owner.
Lawrence Lessig: but what the lawyers don't think about
Lawrence Lessig: is how much of ordinary life they're rendering illegal
Lawrence Lessig: by this way of thinking
Lawrence Lessig: because as life moves online
Lawrence Lessig: we should have the SAME FREEDOMS (at least)
Lawrence Lessig: that we had in real life
Lawrence Lessig: there's no doub that in real life
Lawrence Lessig: you could act out a movie
Lawrence Lessig: or a different ending to a movie


Lawrence Lessig: there's no doubt that would have been "free" of copyright in real live
Lawrence Lessig: life
Lawrence Lessig: but as we move online
Lawrence Lessig: things that were before were free
Lawrence Lessig: now are regulated.
Lawrence Lessig: that's why people here are so important to this debate
Lawrence Lessig: you have got to make the (clueless) politicians aware
Lawrence Lessig: of what 19th century law is doing to the 21st century
Lawrence Lessig: they don't get it
Lawrence Lessig: they think they're stopping "pirates" when they stop all sorts of creativity.
Philip Linden: Given how fast things change in SL

Philip Linden: how long would you make copyrights and patents hold?
Lawrence Lessig: great question
Lawrence Lessig: no idea.
Lawrence Lessig: the issue is how long do they need to be

Lawrence Lessig: to give the kind of incentive they're needed to give
Lawrence Lessig: i like the idea that people here
Lawrence Lessig: create and then can exploit that creativity
Lawrence Lessig: out of world too
Lawrence Lessig: and one complicatoin you might have is that in world
Lawrence Lessig: if copyrights are different from out of world
Philip Linden: right
Lawrence Lessig: then you'll have something protected in real space
Lawrence Lessig: not protected in world.
Lawrence Lessig: but maybe that's fine.

Lawrence Lessig: i don't know enough to say how things should be here.
Lawrence Lessig: but I do have a sense of the questions you should ask
Philip Linden: I agree that one key question is the duration of value of a work
Philip Linden: perhaps this is something we will be able to see statistically,
Philip Linden: given that our world here is so transparent
Philip Linden: and better inform the debate.
Philip Linden: Well, I probably can't think of questions as good as those from all of you.
Philip Linden: And, in true SL style,
Philip Linden: I am currently sitting in a restaurant in austin texas
Lawrence Lessig: now I'm really hungry
Philip Linden: with some folks from MIT and a leading Ad Creative agency watching over my shoulder.

Philip Linden: Well the food isn't here just yet!
Quantum Waves: drooling?
Lawrence Lessig: that doesn't help
Lawrence Lessig: totally
Philip Linden: Hamlet let's take some questions and talk.
Lawrence Lessig: one point thought
Lawrence Lessig: re duration
Lawrence Lessig: it might be fun to experiment
Hamlet Linden: Actually I had one related to Code, and then we'll turn to the audience...
Lawrence Lessig: different terms, and see how that matters to growth, or creativity.
Lawrence Lessig: but ok
Lawrence Lessig: code
Hamlet Linden: Let's talk a little about that section of *Code* you're rewriting for the revision, that deals with virtual worlds.
Lawrence Lessig: shoot
Philip Linden: Yes it's a good point.
Hamlet Linden: In it, you describe an online world where two neighbors resolve a property dispute by changing the very code of the objects they own-- in this case, virtual poisonous flowers and a virtual dog.
Philip Linden: Let an answer evolve.
Hamlet Linden: The solution is for the one with the poison flowers to re-code them so they don't kill the other neighbor's dog.
Hamlet Linden: You describe this as a positive outcome for both parties, but can you see how it might also be a socially negative outcome, too?
Hamlet Linden: Instead of trying to find a compromise that doesn't break the shared reality of their world, they alter it in a way that threatens to break the illusion.
Lawrence Lessig: that's a great point
Lawrence Lessig: and in fact I interviewed this guy to my left
Lawrence Lessig: last week
Hamlet Linden: heh
Lawrence Lessig: and was trying to get the same idea


Lawrence Lessig: when does it make sense to code a solution
Lawrence Lessig: and when does it make sense for people to work it out.
Lawrence Lessig: i like to think about different "modalities of regulation"
Lawrence Lessig: (that's the way a professor needs to talk)
Lawrence Lessig: one is code
Lawrence Lessig: one is la
Lawrence Lessig: law
Lawrence Lessig: one is norms
Lawrence Lessig: and one is markets.
Lawrence Lessig: and the hard question for me is when does a designer decide -- dont' code a solution. let them work it out themselves.
Lawrence Lessig: not becauser it is hard to code
Lawrence Lessig: maybe it's totally simple
Lawrence Lessig: but because people should work it out, not have it solved.
Hamlet Linden: Great. OK, let me start going through the audience questions...
Philip Linden: It has been a hard problem for us - when to code.
Philip Linden: Probably we code too much, in restrospect.
Eric Linden: ah - the foundations of a society!

Lawrence Lessig: with god sitting in on the conversation
Hamlet Linden: Fist , someone named Neptune Rebel offers greetings from Kevin Werbach, apparently a mutual colleague of yours. He also asks a question about your view of fair use with regard to parody.
Lawrence Lessig: kevin's a true genius

Lawrence Lessig: i've stolen every great idea he had and turned it into a book
Lawrence Lessig: (there are still many I havent written yet)
Neptune Rebel: I'll make sure to pass that along
Philip Linden: Wow cut and paste this and send to Kevin!
Philip Linden: Wow cut and paste this and send to Kevin!
Lawrence Lessig: sosueme
Hamlet Linden: heh
Hamlet Linden: Sandy Sullivan asks...
Hamlet Linden: what do you think about a society where some people choose to release designs for free access and modification, and others choose to release designs with restrictions and protections in place? Each creator freely choosing?
Lawrence Lessig: i like that society.
Lawrence Lessig: i think we need a place were creators choose.

Lawrence Lessig: i have my bias about the right choice
Lawrence Lessig: but i don't know squat about how creators create, especially here.
Lawrence Lessig: so let people decide,
Lawrence Lessig: and we'll see whose works spread best.
Lawrence Lessig: and whose work gets the most attention.
Lawrence Lessig: (sorry I didn't mean to avoid the parody question)
Lawrence Lessig: (was there more?)
Hamlet Linden: Oh yes, if you can come back to it.
Hamlet Linden: Just your view on far use and parody.
Hamlet Linden: fair
Lawrence Lessig: so copyright law gives you the right to "fair use"
Lawrence Lessig: what is that?
Lawrence Lessig: who knows.

Lawrence Lessig: it is a 4 factor balancing test
Lawrence Lessig: that no one can predict up front.
Lawrence Lessig: meaning fair use == the right to hire a lawyer.
Lawrence Lessig: one supposedly clear example is parody.
Lawrence Lessig: but that doesn't mean what you think.

Lawrence Lessig: parody is using someone's work to make fun of them.
Lawrence Lessig: it is not using someone's work to make fun of someone else.
Lawrence Lessig: so, again, a subtle complex distinction that is useless to 90%of the people who need it.

Lawrence Lessig: the whole problem here is the law was written to make sure we'd need lawyers to interpret it
Lawrence Lessig: good for people like me
TonyRockyHorror Hauptmann: JibJab
Lawrence Lessig: (I make lawyers for a living)
Lawrence Lessig: but not for creators.
Hamlet Linden: heh
Philip Linden: This point about how if you don't really know if something is illegal, you won't do it,
Philip Linden: is SO important.
Lawrence Lessig: totally
Lawrence Lessig: especially for venture caps
Lawrence Lessig: they won't invest in a law suit
Philip Linden: Terrible so far beyond simply being job security for lawyers.

Lawrence Lessig: and so much innovation in the valley is law suit bait.
Hamlet Linden: Athel Richelieu asks...
Hamlet Linden: Do you think that the largest American media conglomerates (Viacom, etc.) role in defining culture is superceding religion?

Lawrence Lessig: nay, religion is still pretty damn dangerous.
Lawrence Lessig: but when they control the platform of life
Lawrence Lessig: then they (not LL) will be the gods of this space.
Lawrence Lessig: think about the story from myspace
Lawrence Lessig: owned by murdoch
Lawrence Lessig: when people would chat in myspace about youTube (which is a very very cool video site)
Lawrence Lessig: the machine would block the chats.
Lawrence Lessig: that's "freedom" in murdoch land.
Hamlet Linden: heh
Hamlet Linden: Justice Soothsayer asks...
Hamlet Linden: As the author of “Code and other laws of cyberspace”, could you speak for a bit about SecondLife, where the world if made for us by the “coders”, that is, the people who create this “world”
Hamlet Linden: What place does democracy and the rule of law have in such a world?
Philip Linden: Funny, I don't feel free.


Lawrence Lessig: please, tell me. the most interesting thing about the many worlds that are out there is that none really have a vigorous democracy.
Lawrence Lessig: maybe that's good
Lawrence Lessig: maybe the market is enough of a check
Lawrence Lessig: but it is funny that so few have developed this part of life.

Lawrence Lessig: maybe that's because we are all so turned off by politics and gov't and "democracy."
Lawrence Lessig: it is the one true religious ideal we all have, yet like most religion, we don't really believe it.
Philip Linden: There is a passion here is SL... to bypass 'representation' in the democratic process.
Philip Linden: I think that drives much of the negative sentiment, appropriately.
Lawrence Lessig: yea.
Lawrence Lessig: what's so funny is how much we hate politicians
Lawrence Lessig: and how completely they miss that fact.
Hamlet Linden: Csven Concord asks: What are your thoughts on the interchangeability of tangibility; when real world products are treated the same as current media - digitized, shared online and then fabricated by individuals at home?

Lawrence Lessig: so if you mean
Lawrence Lessig: when something gets created here
Lawrence Lessig: and then gets reproduced in real space.
Lawrence Lessig: is that what yuo mean?

Hamlet Linden: Still out there Csven?
Lawrence Lessig: well, let's assume that's the question
Hamlet Linden: Say it out loud, Csven!
Lawrence Lessig: I think it's fanstastic.
Lawrence Lessig: people separate these worlds too much
Lawrence Lessig: we need good examples about how they're linked
Hamlet Linden: Nathan Welch asks...
Hamlet Linden: With new so-called "personal fabrication" devices, most people could produce real products cheaply in their own homes. Plans to build them could be exchanged online. What commons-minded projects would you advocate in this upcoming field?

Lawrence Lessig: complex ones.
Lawrence Lessig: the thing strict IP does poorly is complex work
Lawrence Lessig: coding, e.g., gnu/gpl
Lawrence Lessig: linux
Lawrence Lessig: or building complicated biotech stuff.
Lawrence Lessig: so use the commons for what its good for
Lawrence Lessig: collaboration
Lawrence Lessig: think wikipedia
Lawrence Lessig: (man, it gets dark fast)
Hamlet Linden: heh
Philip Linden: 4 hour day!
Philip Linden: Everything is faster here.
Hamlet Linden: TonyRockyHorror Hauptmann asks...
Lawrence Lessig: except my typing

Hamlet Linden: a QUESTION for professor lessig: what happens when something that person A creates in world free of protection is taken out of world by person B and then uses outdated law to then protect it out game world?
Lawrence Lessig: well here's the point about there not really being two worlds here.
Lawrence Lessig: if I create something

Lawrence Lessig: and then you take it and exploit it
Lawrence Lessig: you're violating my IP (assuming its protectec)
Lawrence Lessig: unless I've authorized you to.
Lawrence Lessig: so B would have to exploit it on terms I approve
Lawrence Lessig: or B's violating my rights.
Hamlet Linden: Forseti Svarog asks...
Hamlet Linden: Lawrence said he had no idea what the term for IP protection should be. Isn't having a concrete position necessary to get credibility from opponents who think the other side is just about creative theft?

Lawrence Lessig: could be
Lawrence Lessig: but not in the argument we had in eldred.
Lawrence Lessig: in eldred
Lawrence Lessig: the question was whether Congress could EXTEND
Lawrence Lessig: and existing term.
Lawrence Lessig: here's why that makes no sense.
Lawrence Lessig: copyright is about creating incentives
Lawrence Lessig: incentives are prospective.
Lawrence Lessig: no matter what even the US Congress does
Lawrence Lessig: it will not give Elvis any more incentive to create in 1954
Lawrence Lessig: so whatever the lenght of copyright should be prospectively
Lawrence Lessig: we know it can make no sense of incentives
Lawrence Lessig: to extend the term for work that is already created.
Lawrence Lessig: second point
Lawrence Lessig: i was talking about in world ip

Lawrence Lessig: in real space, I'm fairly confident the term is already way too long
Lawrence Lessig: in the eldred case
Lawrence Lessig: we argued that the current term
Lawrence Lessig: gave a copyright owner
Lawrence Lessig: 99.98% of the valua of a perpetual term.
Lawrence Lessig: justice breyer corrected me.
Lawrence Lessig: he said it was 99.99996% of a perpetual term.
Lawrence Lessig: whatever.
Lawrence Lessig: too long
Hamlet Linden: heh
Hamlet Linden: Dear Leader asks...
Hamlet Linden: Why is it that you want individual creators in SL to have copyright, and celebrate that, but you condemn MySpace for wanting to preserve copyright, or other corporations -- isn't there a contradiction here?
Lawrence Lessig: i condemned a decision by programmers of myspace to interfere with the words of its members. that's the only criticism.
EZ Rawley: aren't virtual worlds by definition not fixed tangible forms, which is what IP law covers?
Hamlet Linden: Rob Bukowski: asks...
Lawrence Lessig: no, virtual worlds certainly would create work that is covered by ip.
Lawrence Lessig: fixed and tangible enough
Hamlet Linden: Oh go ahead...
Philip Linden: There must be a balance... time to create value for a person, but still maximize value for a society.

Lawrence Lessig: yes
Lawrence Lessig: that's the balance
Dear Leader: Isn't always ascribing social missions to creativity itself a form of oppression, Philip?
Urizenus Sklar: hehe
Hamlet Linden: Do you think legal binding contracts could ever work in a virtual world such as SL?
Hamlet Linden: (Rob Bukowski asks.)

Lawrence Lessig: they could
Lawrence Lessig: quesiton is whether you want them
Lawrence Lessig: this is the same question about whether you want code or norms to regulate behavior.

Lawrence Lessig: if you coded contracts here, so they forced things to happen the way promised, that would be very efficient for somethings
Lawrence Lessig: but itmight ruin other things.
Lawrence Lessig: e.g.
Philip Linden: And do we want them globally (made in LL code), or locally (made in scripts)
Lawrence Lessig: if I promise you we'll have lunch tomorrow
Lawrence Lessig: and then change my mind
Lawrence Lessig: it would be an awful world if you could then sue me for breach of contract
Lawrence Lessig: somethings ought to be left to people to work out
Lawrence Lessig: without the law.

Lawrence Lessig: re philip's q
Lawrence Lessig: if anywhere, start locally.
Hamlet Linden: VonKorf Schnook asks...
Philip Linden: Totally agree.
Hamlet Linden: in "free culture" you wrote: "But just as a free market is perverted if its property becomes feudal,..."
Hamlet Linden: second life is feudal at its core - see all the linden dynastie around - how can culture be free here,
Hamlet Linden: where private property creates feudal structures?
Lawrence Lessig: so I meant something different
Lawrence Lessig: the sense of feudal
Lawrence Lessig: was that you couldn't really free the property

Lawrence Lessig: of certain burdens.
Lawrence Lessig: so the laws at the time
Lawrence Lessig: for example
Lawrence Lessig: made it impossible to sell the land outside the family
Lawrence Lessig: and so on
Lawrence Lessig: in free culture
Lawrence Lessig: i was thinking of a specific kind of contrast
Lawrence Lessig: imagine in real space
Philip Linden: Right... your choices here are your own,
Lawrence Lessig: if you bought a table
Lawrence Lessig: and decided after a month
Lawrence Lessig: to move it from your living room
Philip Linden: regardless of the lindens. etc.
Lawrence Lessig: into your office.
Lawrence Lessig: but before you could do that

Lawrence Lessig: you had to call the maker of the table
Lawrence Lessig: and ask permission
Lawrence Lessig: and they would ask -- so, what computer will yuo use on it, because we have an exclusive with apple
Lawrence Lessig: or what books will be near it, because penguin is our publisher
Lawrence Lessig: well, that's just what the rules are like with copyright
Lawrence Lessig: you buy a CD by Sting.
Lawrence Lessig: you want to use it in a particular way
Lawrence Lessig: you want to remix it, and share that with your friends.
Lawrence Lessig: you can't, according to the law, unless you get sting's permission.
Lawrence Lessig: trust me,
Lawrence Lessig: he doesn't answer his email

Hamlet Linden: Gwyneth Llewelyn asks...
Hamlet Linden: in the software industry, open source software can be released by a company for a profit, since they are able to provide *services* with the software.Now how can a writer make a living from a book they set in the public domain?

Lawrence Lessig: turns out
Lawrence Lessig: surprisingly
Lawrence Lessig: in lots of ways.
Lawrence Lessig: e.g.
Lawrence Lessig: in south africa, there is a research council
Lawrence Lessig: called something long and too hard to type
Lawrence Lessig: they had about 200 researchers
Lawrence Lessig: in 15 different programs
Lawrence Lessig: they wrote books
Lawrence Lessig: which they then sold.

Lawrence Lessig: in 2001, they decided to stop publishing books
Lawrence Lessig: by default
Lawrence Lessig: instead, they published everything for free in electronic form
Lawrence Lessig: and then they sold print-on-demand books to anyone who wanted.
Lawrence Lessig: in 2005, they evaluated the effect of this.
Lawrence Lessig: remember: before they sold everything
Lawrence Lessig: now they gave everything away for free
Lawrence Lessig: consequence -- book sales had gone up by 300%
Lawrence Lessig: for obvious reasons

Lawrence Lessig: more people knew about the work
Lawrence Lessig: and most people (in real space at least) don't want to read abook
Lawrence Lessig: on a computer.
Lawrence Lessig: so making it free
Lawrence Lessig: made it easier to sell books
Lawrence Lessig: I don't think that works always
Lawrence Lessig: but it does work for some
Lawrence Lessig: and all I argue for is the right of creators to make that choice
Hamlet Linden: Dana Bergson asks... Philip was talking about how he wants to further the fast development of SL by giving sensible IP rights to residents while RL Copyrights strangle growth in RL. But how would it possible to decouple IP in SL and RL?
Hamlet Linden: Both are heavily intertwined. This is no country with its own laws.
Lawrence Lessig: sure
Lawrence Lessig: you could have rules for how stuff created here gets used here
Lawrence Lessig: what freedoms members of this community have, at least when here.
Lawrence Lessig: and in principle,
Lawrence Lessig: you could even have rules that controlled how people's ip
Lawrence Lessig: created here

Lawrence Lessig: would be governed in real space
Lawrence Lessig: that's totally possible.
Philip Linden: And perhaps common law would help us there...
Philip Linden: a few decisions recognizing that things were logically distinct,
Philip Linden: or different here than in RL.
Hamlet Linden: Daniel Terdiman from CNET is in the office here at LL and he has a question. I wonder if he's familiar with Marvel v. NCSoft and if so, what he thinks of the idea of restricting the kinds of characters players can create.
Hamlet Linden: And also, how much of a chill on free content creation is it to have a settlement between those parties that doesn't reveal what the terms are?
Lawrence Lessig: i know the case
Lawrence Lessig: it is a perfect example of the insanity of these laws.
Lawrence Lessig: people ought to be able to create
Satchmo Prototype: Dan needs to read Robins blog :)
Philip Linden: I LOVED that video on your site Lawrence.
Urizenus Sklar: good Q, Dan
Calix Metropolitan: The problem is that people here make money, that is able to be traded via market exchange to any currency, so the line gets more narrow and the rules governing DCMA and IP would too once income is earned does it not?
Lawrence Lessig: the characters that are part of their life

Lawrence Lessig: the idea that Marvel owns these characters in every use they might have
Lawrence Lessig: is wrong. IT is just this kind of limit that we need the law to craft.
Lawrence Lessig: and yes
Lawrence Lessig: it is bad we don't know the settlement

Lawrence Lessig: but the settlement wouldn't controlthe law.
Lawrence Lessig: we need some good common law cases to describe the freedom here
Lawrence Lessig: so others can build on it.
Lawrence Lessig: on my blog http://lessig.org/blog
Lawrence Lessig: there's a fantastic link to a .mov

Lawrence Lessig: about characters being quashed in world
Lawrence Lessig: by real space lawyers.
Lawrence Lessig: very funny.

Hamlet Linden: Philip needs to roll from the restaurant so I wanted to give him time to say a few words before he exits...
Philip Linden: The movie really wraps it all up.
Hamlet Linden: (And I'll continue on.)
Philip Linden: Well...
Philip Linden: there is so much to talk about.

Philip Linden: But the waitress is hovering near our strange little table.
Philip Linden: And the wi-fi goes not much past the door, I assume.
Philip Linden: I really hope
Philip Linden: that as SL grows,

Philip Linden: we are able to get more time with Lawrence to help us thing through all these opportunities.
TonyRockyHorror Hauptmann: here, here!
Philip Linden: I hope to be able to trade strange stories of this new world
Philip Linden: for a bit of his time.
Lawrence Lessig: i would really love that
Philip Linden: We have a chance,
Lawrence Lessig: finally to work on problems
Lawrence Lessig: where we could make some progress
Philip Linden: if we make the right decisions.

Philip Linden: to be a place that really matters and moves forward fast.
Philip Linden: Thanks so much for having me here.
Philip Linden: And please continue on!
Hamlet Linden: Thanks for coming, Philip. Safe trip back to SF!

Philip Linden: Take care everyone!

--
Hamlet Linden: Ty Magpie asks...
Hamlet Linden: what about duplication of corporate logos in builds that attempt to reconstruct real life places, like RL convenience stores with Pepsi and Coors ads everywhere... could they sue over such someday?

Lawrence Lessig: first the link to the movie

Lawrence Lessig: re logos
Lawrence Lessig: they could complain it it was unclear who was responsible for the stuff.
Lawrence Lessig: so if you start producing Coke and call it Coke, I'm sure they wouldn't be happy.
Hamlet Linden: Calix Metropolitan asks...
Hamlet Linden: SecondLife states in TOS that they abide by DMCA and offer a way to dispute, IP infractions. The problem is IP infractions can vary and are very hard to prove as code, building and the tools used to make objects is basically the same format.

Hamlet Linden: Is there a copyright similar to a Founders Copyright (creative commons oversees this) or something akin to protect scripts that are original in nature and use.
Hamlet Linden: Also what about NDA agreements in SL vs RL and subcontracting to members using SL money (which can equate to any currency through Lindex trade)?
Lawrence Lessig: so in principle

Lawrence Lessig: a copyright is only violated if you
Lawrence Lessig: copy someone elses work.
Lawrence Lessig: that makes proof very difficulyt
Lawrence Lessig: because if there are just a few ways to do something
Lawrence Lessig: there's a complicated question about whether it can be copyrighted
Lawrence Lessig: and then a hard question to know whether the defendant really did even see the original
Lawrence Lessig: that he is alleged to have copied.

Lawrence Lessig: I do know that on democracy island (I believe) they were demo-ing
Lawrence Lessig: a creative commons tool.
Lawrence Lessig: very cool implementation
Lawrence Lessig: but we don't have a sl founders copyright.
Hamlet Linden: Oh yes, be sure to check out Zarf's CC machine.
Lawrence Lessig: re agreements: depends on what it says.
Lawrence Lessig: but again,
Lawrence Lessig: don't assume they are completely separate worlds.
Calix Metropolitan: It is a 14 yr copyright with less protections than LOC 70 yrs
Lawrence Lessig: it is, and i'd love to build it here. but we've not yet done that. volunteers?

Hamlet Linden: Don't everyone jump in at once!
Hamlet Linden: OK...
Hamlet Linden: jesz Murakami asks...
Calix Metropolitan: yes actually
Hamlet Linden: when u (lawrence) talk of warriors --do u see them as pawns in a deeper war --where the creative children of this species may make a healthy species --that the status quo of this is truly feared of?
EZ Rawley: sure, if you don't have to be a lawyer to participate..

Calix Metropolitan: would love to create that and nda form and contracts ppl can use with goods
Calix Metropolitan: as a simple law student i can't give legal advice as that is against the law ;p
Lawrence Lessig: the status quo is afraid
Lawrence Lessig: but I don't think they understand what they are afraid of
Lawrence Lessig: they've got quarterly earnings
Lawrence Lessig: and no tenure

Lawrence Lessig: and new technologies they don't know how to monetize
Lawrence Lessig: so they do what everyone threatened does
Lawrence Lessig: they attack.

Lawrence Lessig: that's why I think it is best to build the alternative without destroying what they're doing

Lawrence Lessig: and then let people understand its values.
Lawrence Lessig: re building CC here.
Lawrence Lessig: you know, we have a program to port licenses into different jurisdictions
Lawrence Lessig: maybe we should add 2d life to that list
Lawrence Lessig: there are 70 countries now in the process of doing that
Lawrence Lessig: why not a vitual jurisdiction?

Hamlet Linden: Khalid Xingjian asks...
Hamlet Linden: Is boycotting Yahoo! properties an appropriate response to its handling of the Shi Tao case? If so, how can it be made effective? People on Flickr (for example) are more upset about the UAE blocking flickr than its parent company's Shi Tao role.

Lawrence Lessig: the yahoo issue is hard. msft, and yahoo are big; they're not the chinese gov't. so
Lawrence Lessig: how they decide how to llive there is a complicated question. I don't think a company on its own can choose
Lawrence Lessig: to ignore the law.

Lawrence Lessig: so either leave or obey the law -- or get the US gov't to back them up for defending rights that ought to be defended.

Hamlet Linden: OK, one more question and we should go to the autograph session since that'll probably take awhile. Get into position, Falk, to give us covering fire if need be...
Hamlet Linden: OK, last question...

Hamlet Linden: Has creative commons been tested yet in a court of law and if not, what do you suppose the issues will be when it happens?
Lawrence Lessig: it
Lawrence Lessig: has not

Lawrence Lessig: but there's nothing really creative or novel in the cc licenses
Lawrence Lessig: they are just copyright licenses
Lawrence Lessig: following the teaching of the Free Software Foundation.

Lawrence Lessig: if someone violates the license, they violate the underlying copyright.

Lawrence Lessig: so just as any software or content licenses protects the copyirght owner
Lawrence Lessig: cc licenses do as well.
Lawrence Lessig: big difference though

Lawrence Lessig: is that cc licenses grant freedoms that wouldn't otherwise be there
Lawrence Lessig: while ordinary copyright licenses
Lawrence Lessig: impose restrictions.
Lawrence Lessig: so no test yet
Lawrence Lessig: but I'm not worried when one happens.

Hamlet Linden: OK, last question from *me* (excerisizing host rights)...
Hamlet Linden: You suggest some specific solutions to improve the current copyright regime, but are somewhat general about how the voting public might come to support them.
Hamlet Linden: What's the best way of convincing average voters that this is important enough for them to call their Congress person?

Lawrence Lessig: the key is for people to see the creativity these spaces invite.
Lawrence Lessig: they need to see the stuff their kids do (other than downloading every song ever recorded)
Lawrence Lessig: and then they need to see how the law treats that kind of creativity.

Lawrence Lessig: my favorite recent example is Anime music videos.
Lawrence Lessig: they are extraordinarily creative
Lawrence Lessig: amazing stuff

Lawrence Lessig: totally illegal under the law as it is.
Lawrence Lessig: people have to see the creativity and
Lawrence Lessig: then ask -- why is thisillegal.

Lawrence Lessig: and when they ask that question, some at least will ask it of
Lawrence Lessig: a congressperson.
Lawrence Lessig: we should get some congresspeople in this space.
Lawrence Lessig: I could get a couple if you want.
Hamlet Linden: Absolutely!
Lawrence Lessig: I also think Judge Posner should come here.
Hamlet Linden: In a heartbeat!

Lawrence Lessig: that would help lots -- for people to understand by seeing.

Hamlet Linden: Why not Justice Scalia too while we're at it? :)
Lawrence Lessig: he and I don't talk much anymore...
Hamlet Linden: heh

----- autograph session begins ------

It was a last minute thing to use live streaming audio + IRC + flickr to do a little presentation on the Epsilon Construct theory I've been working on. A backchannel fired up on IRC, Raymond called the studio line over skype, and IMs filled my screen while people poured over a simple annotated photo I posted on my flickr stream. As a joke, I called it Eric Rice Media Saturday, and didn't really think it was a big deal. Apparently I was wrong.

So I got to thinking about it, and people like Raymond and others have offered some awesome encouragement, that I decided to add something to my Backstaging.com DIY media vlog--- and that's an hour long, live show / podcast where I can talk about/ramble in greater detail on a topic that extends beyond the 3-6 minute videos. (On a side note, we'll be doing the Eric Rice Show podcast simultaneously live while recording.)

Each Saturday at 2pm PST/5pm EST/10pm GMT, after the weekly Videoblogger Video Conference, I'll spend an hour doing a live show on the periodic KSSX stream, capturing it for later distribution down the Backstaging RSS feed, which will now be a hybrid feed.

This weekend will be initial commentary and whatnot about Apple's new iLife '06, including Garageband, iMovie, iWeb, plus a couple other things including this new tapeless digicam I picked up at Macworld (Supacam DVX).

I hope you can join me and call in with your thoughts.

Thanks for your support and encouragement, gang. It's how things get done.

It's been a long time coming, and I'm proud to announce that Audioblog.com has launched a couple features that some folks may find to be useful.

First, a little history. We launched in May of 2004. Audioblogging by phone, by file upload, and by recording right in the browser. Post to all the major XMLRPC-enabled blog software and services. When October 2004 came around, and the reality of podcasting was heralded loud and clear at Gnomedex, we added support for podcasting-- first by enabling the download of the file, second by enabling customers to create as many RSS feeds as they like. When iTunes 4.9 came out with podcast support, we moved to support their extensions.

Shortly thereafter, in November, we flipped the video switch for uploading AVI files.

We've come a long way. Since then, our video service grew to include support for nearly every type of video file format and codec we could. This included AVI, MPEG(x), MOV, 3GP, and WMV. Now, you can send those videos to an RSS feed -or- publish the link under those dandy flash players you've seen.

And since we're announcing this during Macworld, please allow me to steal a line from Steve Jobs.

There is just one more thing...
We automatically convert your videos to an iPod-compatible Quicktime format. Perhaps there's a trend with 42 million of those little gizmos being sold so far?

There's still a seven day trial of the service. Give it a try and let us know what you think. And keep your eye on our price plans.... we think you'll be quite happy where we're going. And if you like some further teasers, I'll just say go wide, and keep those mobile phones ready. (Is movlog a word? Heh)

Thanks to everyone for your support. Now let's go out there and make some media--- for yourself, your company, or the world.

Yup, Lessig's going virtual, like Cory Doctorow, Thomas P.M. Barnett, and Coltrane before him. He has virtual copies of Free Culture, will be speaking no doubt, and to celebrate, I'll stream the entire community-generated audio version of the book Free Culture (that I participated in-- see Chapter 4: Pirates-- with John Nichols) on the Spin Martin estate in Palulop (119,234. And of course, I can always videoblog it. :P

ROWRA, no?

Sunday, March 12, 2006, 8pm-Midnight. True, personal storytelling on stage at the famous Red Eyed Fly in Austin, TX. I'll be your emcee, and with the help of the ever-organized Michael Brown, we are seeking folks to be featured storytellers, and as always, signing up on-site to be an open-mic participant. We'll also have various giveaways, including the first four editions of JPG Magazine.

Don't know what the The Fray or the Fray Events are? Check out the wonderful world of storytelling incited by the ever-passionate Derek Powazek.

Contact me if interested. (And this time, it's NOT on my birthday, so no embarrassing sing-a-longs started by the Rocketboom folks. Heh)

Not everyone is into the video game/virtual world thing, and I've kept a bit quiet on this front.

There's quite a bit of audio + video + photography + rss + storytelling going on in the virtual world of Second Life. Since this is yet another place where we can churn out creativity, I've created a flickr account for all of the Second life-generated photos. Spin Martin is the name of my avatar. Come on in, say hello, play around the estate in Palulop!

Second Life has been a platform where I've been able to play with podcasting, video playlists and machinima. It's also a platform I'm using to get a piece of fiction that's been in my head for about 10 years. I don't have the discipline to write a fiction novel. I have different disciplines. So, you might be seeing a whole world of stuff coming from a very weird place. Do not be alarmed. It's just more media.

(Side note: Cruise by sometime and I'll show you how to use Audioblog.com and post audio that eventually gets streamed on your land in the game /geeknoise-geeknoise-geeknoise. Hey, we do this because IT'S THERE). There are some wacky and brilliant, artistic and scientific people that hang around there, including those who desire the hookup, or the profit, or the-ahem-alternative. (When was the last time you had a serious conversation about collaborative research and rapid prototyping with a furry, a vampire and a beach bum while exploring an oil rig? Yeah, that's what I thought.)

There's so much to say lately, so I'll start with the most topical of the moment: Podcasting.

The Eric Rice Show Live Edition
On our podcast, The Eric Rice Show, we're going to be broadcasting while recording the podcast simultaneously. Part of this is because we solved the issues we had with the phone interface that we've used for over four years. Also, part of this is because we have a studio line dedicated to taking calls (two numbers, one of which is toll-free). That's user participation, baby! (and while we haven't proceeded here too deeply, mobile users who listen to the mobile edition of our show on Mobilcast-equipped phones, will be able to interact with us via SMS)

Backstaging Live
And on the heels of that, a spur of the moment broadcast to a group of videobloggers (and some other random bystanders) using nothing more than the live stream of KSSX and a flickr photo (oh and IRC) is probably becoming a regular feature. I was being silly when I called it "Eric Rice Media Saturday", since I was just giving a talk on the Epsilon Construct (more on that later). So, in a few weeks, I'm going to spend an hour after the Saturday vlogger community town hall video conference, doing what I'll call Backstaging Live. This will be a longer form, more interactive, audio-only enhancement to the short, DIY, video podcast of the same name. It gives me an outlet that's more suitable to a longer, comfortable ramble, rather than video. Different style, different vehicle.

Podcast Hotel, Seattle
Finally, save the date for Podcast Hotel, Feb 23-25 in Seattle. The venues are almost ready to be announced and plane tickets are being purchased as we speak. :-) Not only will you get to meet some industry players, but also take part in one of the coolest conferences you can attend. Rock n Roll, live. Jam Sessions. Conference Sessions. You can also get to meet Niki and Hooligan from their respective podcasts on KSSX. Also, KSSX is pleased to be the main sponsor of the event. If you're a musician, if you're a podcaster, if you're an association dedicated to helping change the way things work, if you're a software maker, and yes, if you're a videoblogger, then you've got plenty of reasons to go.

More announcements to follow...

WOOOOOHOO Lucas, way to go! Webjay, the service that powers the KSSX Mixtape podcast was acquired by my favorite media/tech co. up the road in Sunnyvale: Yahoo! And Mahalo to Yahoo for continuing to pick up smart, strong, and functional services.

Back in May, when I kicked off the Podcast Roadshow in Honolulu, Lucas explained about Yahoo's new music store which supported XSPF, to a group of podcasters. Check his enthusiasm about open source and the beauty of it. Video

Stern: "I believe that people will pay for radio-- it's everything iPod can't be. IPod can't give you content and we can."

Oh I don''t know. I think having some of the strippers from the Spearmint Rhino at the Vegas Amateur Stripoff that you can have delivered to your iPod, would probably make your comment pretty damn ridiculous.

Hi Howard. My name's Eric Rice. Long time listener, first time mogul.